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Re: York not in the top 20 UK cycling cities.
Posted by: Arch (IP Logged)
Date: April 14, 2010 08:05PM

I always get Heslington Road and Lane mixed up, but can't remember a facility like that on either of them. Where is it? I've obviously never thought of using it, if I can't remember it...

If I had a baby elephant, it could help me wash the car. If I had a car.

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Re: York not in the top 20 UK cycling cities.
Posted by: simon (IP Logged)
Date: April 15, 2010 08:51AM

Borntoolate Wrote:
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> @Hilldodger. Here, the policy is to erect more
> barriers (Hob Moor).
Gah! Whoever designed those bloody things should be shot. Repeatedly.
I almost killed myself first time I tried to ride through one on the fixed because the pedals grounded - Ghod help you if you ride anything more exotic. So I either use the wicket gates or avoid Hob Moor altogether.

The Ministry of Crap Design were on fine form when they came up with those wretched things.

Re: York not in the top 20 UK cycling cities.
Posted by: palmersperry (IP Logged)
Date: April 15, 2010 09:00AM

Arch Wrote:
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> I always get Heslington Road and Lane mixed up,
> but can't remember a facility like that on either
> of them. Where is it? I've obviously never
> thought of using it, if I can't remember it...

Come down Broadway, just after the mini-roundabout at the end of Broadway there's a turning on the left that is the start of the farcility. The other end connects onto the (actualy vaguely useful) path that connects the university end of Retreat Lane to Hes' Lane.

Re: York not in the top 20 UK cycling cities.
Posted by: Arch (IP Logged)
Date: April 15, 2010 09:41AM

palmersperry Wrote:
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> Come down Broadway, just after the mini-roundabout
> at the end of Broadway there's a turning on the
> left that is the start of the farcility. The
> other end connects onto the (actualy vaguely
> useful) path that connects the university end of
> Retreat Lane to Hes' Lane.

Oh, I think I know where you mean. Never had occasion to use it I guess. I know there a path that comes out there, but I've never actually been to see where it went...

If I had a baby elephant, it could help me wash the car. If I had a car.

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Re: York not in the top 20 UK cycling cities.
Posted by: Arch (IP Logged)
Date: April 17, 2010 09:00PM

Well, I had occasion to go along there today, so I took it:

pros: better surface than the road at that point, and no impatient cars behind.

cons: cattle grids at each gate - luckily the Dash is narrow enough to pass through the gates easily and slowly, I wouldn't do it on an upright, with my cattle grid phobia. And then it just dumps you back on the same road.

And those odd metal boxes on the gates, that looked like they might house mind zapping electro magnets or something....

If I had a baby elephant, it could help me wash the car. If I had a car.

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Re: York not in the top 20 UK cycling cities.
Posted by: Pedalabit (IP Logged)
Date: April 18, 2010 09:38PM

Had a small taste of the cycle routes in South Nottingham today, signage was very good and no barriers - local routes not sustrans as far as I can tell

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Re: York not in the top 20 UK cycling cities.
Posted by: RobH (IP Logged)
Date: April 19, 2010 09:50AM

Bournmouth gets my vote as worst city on my recent tour...
Pick up a destination sign at one roundabout and it has disappeared at the next.
Roads laid out as car race tracks.
All signed routes seem to lead to and stop at car parks.
Cycle Routes shrink and shrink until you end up cycling on a footpath that suddenly ends with a right-left twin rightangle turn back onto the road.

By contrast Brighton was great with bus lane cycle routes into the city from Newhaven and a cycle path along the prom (which was only suitable for a steady 8mph as it wasn't very wide and there were lots of people wondering on and off it).

Re: York not in the top 20 UK cycling cities.
Posted by: Borntoolate (IP Logged)
Date: April 19, 2010 08:07PM

Here's a proper way to provide for commuters in a hurry;

When Im in London, I live on a boat at Canary Wharf. My commute to the City is 3.5 miles (6km).

First, a subway from the Marina, under a major road intersection, to Poplar High Street (now bypassed and a quiet mixed-use road with cycle signage), then take a pelican (which actually changes when I press the button!) across a main road, (or alternatively I just take the roads through 'Little Manhattan' - low-threat, good bike parking, no marked bike routes but low-speed traffic).

Now both these possible routes converge, and go through a road intersection on a green two-way cycle lane with its own lights. Then it's narrow riverside streets for a while ('Narrow Street' in fact), through a park whish is actually the roof of Limehouse Tunnel, across another road junction on green, light-controlled lanes, and on to Cable Street.

This used to be a busy 2-way road. It is now 1-way, with half its width as a double-track, green cycle highway, often seperated from the road by wide kerbs. This proceeds 2 miles, almost straight, right to the Tower and City. Bloody brilliant!

Don't cycle slowly at peak times though, or you'll get an angry queue of fast dayglo/helmet commuters behind you. Jess counted 11 Bromptons on one ride of Cable Street last week!
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Re: York not in the top 20 UK cycling cities.
Posted by: Uncle Phil (IP Logged)
Date: April 26, 2010 02:42PM

Arch Wrote:

> Oh, I think I know where you mean. Never had
> occasion to use it I guess. I know there a path
> that comes out there, but I've never actually been
> to see where it went...

You shouldn't have to - there should be a sign to tell you where it goes. There would be on a motor road.

Re: York not in the top 20 UK cycling cities.
Posted by: Arch (IP Logged)
Date: April 26, 2010 09:53PM

Uncle Phil Wrote:
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>
> You shouldn't have to - there should be a sign to
> tell you where it goes. There would be on a motor
> road.

Oh, I know....

I'm just back from Germany. I'm definitely emigrating....

If I had a baby elephant, it could help me wash the car. If I had a car.

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